Back to the future or a brave new world? You decide.
But the National Party's youth crime policy – which calls for military academies and ankle bracelets for repeat offenders as young as ten – has been dismissed by some as failed ideas that have already been tried, and welcomed by others who believe youth offending is out of control.
National leader Christopher Luxon has said some kids need to be reprogrammed.
Green Party co-leader Marama Davidson says it's Luxon who needs reprogramming.
And ACT's David Seymour reckons it's the Nats who are the real offenders, stealing his own party's policies.
Davidson told Tova on Friday morning there is nothing to suggest they work.
"Just like the climate-deniers looking for the one percent of evidence in amongst the barrage of clear evidence that these have never worked and actually have perpetuated intergenerational trauma," said Davidson.
Seymour told the show that something has to give.
"We have to do way better with our social services," said Seymour.
"If I look at education, if I look at corrections, if I look at Oranga Tamariki they don't really have a lot of options for what to do with youth offenders."
Listen to the full Two Sides panel discussion between Green Party co-leader Marama Davidson, ACT leader David Seymour and Tova above.
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